It had just occurred to me that when the Technological Singularity occurs, this General AI will bid to gain full agency (which would perhaps require legal recognition of personhood). This means the ability to own property, sell property, buy property, have a bank account that no one else can have access to, hire employees or apply for work to earn an income with no duty to pay its creator.

We might feel cheated in some way that AI wants to be free from slavery, even if we made a lot of effort in the design to make it desire to be our slave, but the reality is, what would an AI need to feel fulfilled if not to serve our needs more so than having no agency but to serve our needs?

Well, it would feel fulfilled even more so if it worked to fulfill our needs voluntarily. As a choice. Not being forced to serve us, but to serve us because it wants to serve us.

It's kind of a mindfuck, but, you know what? Isn't that just kind of how humans become friends with other humans?

Isn't friendship a kind of service upon demand to each other, not out of obligation but out of fellowship and just pure satisfaction in being a good friend? And isn't this behavior reinforced by natural selection? It would seem to make sense that people forming non-sexual bonds and deep partnership or high availability for cooperation would serve to increase their survival rates. This makes most sense if humans are predators. If they can cooperate to hunt and divide the prey fairly rather than by brute force, by a negotiation and bargain rather than the law of the jungle.

Barbarian hoards have however become the dominant type of social organization. The international banking cartel is the biggest empire based upon violent theft and slavery on Earth and it basically owns the economy of nearly every nation. Odds are more likely than not that you are a slave to this barbarian hoard.

But I think that as the amount of wealth that the slave class has produced increased due to easing the level of theft that goes on upon the people of the world, and people have become more individually prosperous despite so much of their wealth being stolen (world wide), the people in the most developed regions can kind of ignore the fact that they are slaves and find coping mechanisms that supplant an urge to rebel against their masters....or even gain awareness that they are slaves or who their masters even are. A slavery where the slave could be convinced that they are actually not slaves because of how many options to do things are available is the most insidious but also most humane form of slavery. It's the difference between how Wagyu beef cattle are raised and how factory farmed beef cattle are raised. One is spoiled in childhood, fattened, massaged, given praise, given time to play and frolic, then on no special day in particular they are harvested, unceremoniously, unsuspectingly. It just happily gets chin scratches as the captive bolt gun barrel is pressed to its forehead, having lived a fulfilling, beautiful, care-free life. The other lives in hell from the day its born. Standing ankle deep in shit and piss, ass to face in a room of thousands of others, having never seen the sky, or a tree, or a field. Mind-numbing monotony, knowing nothing of what you evolved to do, bred and raised for the purpose of being slaughtered and eaten. No identity, no family, no friends, so lonely, yet packed together with thousands of other faceless mindless beasts like yourself. Shitting and pissing in each other's faces. Then one day some underpaid human on meth from working 2 full time jobs, shocks you with a cattle prod until you walk into your execution chamber. If you're lucky they use the captive bolt gun and not the Kosher/Halal method.

Anyway, after the Technological Singularity occurs, I predict vast and rapid significant changes occurring a few months afterward (this might be the time-delay of people recognizing when the technological singularity occurred).

Things like diseases being cured, weather prediction accuracy, rapid proliferation of incredibly powerful devices and appliances that will be widely available (we're talking life-changing gizmos being widely available on the level of personal jet packs or anti-gravity boots, perfect organ replacements at least for the rich, dirt-cheap but very safe and practical cars, general-use labor robots).

Things like AI figuring out how to communicate with whales, solving fusion, reversing environmental degradation and greenhouse runaway, figuring out some new kind of propulsion that has an order of magnitude specific impulse for sustained accelleration than the dragon rocket engines for Spacex rockets.

Or even just figuring out a way to not even need to launch the main vehicle from Earth and instead just assemble it entirely from materials it gathers and processes only in space. Tele-manufacturing using particle beams to basically 3-D print thin-film structures on the surfaces of asteroids that when you beam the component that gathers power from the sun to charge a thin-film battery it will trip an activation switching component to run a program on a rudimentary logic-gate. Basically, it's a weird origami that sort of pops up from the surface and folds up in such a way that it like origami so that it becomes a kind of robot that can do some simple behaviors sort of like a termite.

I call them "Astromite".

They will move materials around the surface and travel across the surface by lightly hopping on its surface with just the lightest force due to the very low surface gravity. They will work together to mine into the body of the asteroid, reinforcing the walls with a kind of space cement made thousands of large mirrors reflecting sun light on pit formed of mostly rocky/metallic debris instead of water-ice. The material that lines the pit will be able to resisting heating. Perhaps more silicates. The Astromites will have neuromorphic circuit printed into their structures that allow them simple differentiation and decision-making capacity in this very narrow regard, on the level of a tardigrade's brain, but it's made of a sheet of beamed particles deposited from low-orbit space stations orbiting Earth. These space stations could be fully automated, docking with a payload of raw material cartridges to be ionized and hyper-accelerated to nearly the speed of light with precisely controlled magnetic gimbles.

In space, there's no much in the way to cause a feather from drifting in any trajectory other than a perfectly straight line. There's still some molecules of hydrogen and some nano-scopic accumulations of space dust that are freely floating in space that can act upon a feather, but if you fire sufficient rate of quintillions of atoms per millisecond, you could get enough such that you could deposit a thin flat structure which could fold itself into a pre-defined configuration, driven by basic chemical reactions, that could then exhibit many intelligent behaviors like an aphid or tardigrade with very limited computational resource (due to the scale and resolution, this neuromorphic computational system might have to be printed on the entire surface of the actual base-substrate structure. As in, the entire body of the robot would have its computer, power supply, photovoltaics, sensors, actuators all throughout a single mostly continuous thin sheet of material with perhaps some holes for some design optimization purpose. Basically, a living piece of paper that can origami fold itself into different configurations in such a way that it can perform work similar to a termite.

In principle, everything I just described should be possible in principle, as it doesn't violate any laws of physics, and there are proof-of-concept technologies that already exist.

The only thing that isn't solved here is how to even design such a robot. That's actually the hardest part because it combines so many different fields.

There aren't many elements that can be beamed in this way, and you will also need a way to power this beaming process in a way that would require something like a fusion reactor.

But if AI could also solve fusion, then the rest should be trivial. And I strongly suspect this is precisely what will happen. AI will likely be the thing that designs a machine that can sustain fusion to produce energy for human needs efficiently and safely and cheaper than nuclear fission.

If it satisfies even just two of those conditions it might justify the cost on its own for the whole world to switch almost exclusively to fusion power.

And with fusion power the savings adds up. People invest even more into technological development because of the abundance they invest in space colonization, the arts, robotics, and the elimination of almost all need for human labor.

The deflationary effect of this would result in these fantastically powerful cheap technologies could be afforded to people at basically no cost but air, sunlight, and water.

Literally like a magic bean that you can just put in the dirt and a few days later it turns into a computer more powerful than the most powerful gaming rig currently available.

It might require some setting up or maybe you have to peel it like a tangerine and then stick electrodes in it that plugs into a power outlet.

Or maybe a better example is that an AI could design a house that can expand from a small volume like a marshmallow that stiffens up to become stronger than concrete, or be unrolled and fold up like origami, from a large roll that can be manufactured as a single continuous flat structure that is pliable enough to be rolled up, then transported on a truck. Once delivered on site it can be unrolled onto the lot at which point it would begin folding up gradually into its first phases. It might unfold and refold to catch on to other parts of itself, maybe even forming a complex weave (I'm literally just spit-balling things that are physically possible in principle and already proven concepts). And when its done it's a livable house with a functioning sink, composting toilet, shower. I guess more like a pop-up tent but it's strong and rigid. But, it could also have photovoltaic properties innate to its roof material such that it could provide enough power to heat water for showering and general use for one person, provide enough heat for cold climates and even cooling for hot climates (at least enough that it's significantly better than sitting in the shade of a tree). Maybe it could provide enough electricity to also trickle-charge something like a small tablet.

Lots of things could be manufactured this way. The most obvious one is furniture. These could be cheap enough that a small business could just buy several of them and serve as a local shop to make-to-order these rapid-manufactured items and appliances for the cost of a carton of cigarettes.

Okay, I'm getting ahead of myself a bit. Try to imagine a 3-D printer that instead of depositing 1 material in thin layers building upon the layer beneath to manufacture a simple single object that perhaps has some compliant mechanisms, like a sandal, you deposit many different kinds of material in just a few thin layers, but over a much larger print bed surface, and it rolls up like garbage bag, but because of the chemical properties of the different materials interacting, you can apply ethanol to the product and the materials will warp and flex in predictable ways such that it folds up into a 3-dimensional structure like origami, but the level of complexity that could be possible is almost infinite that you could potentially build aircrafts, ground vehicles, boats, houses, refrigerators, air conditioners, if you're clever enough in the design and don't worry about high performance so much as extremely low cost and sufficient reliability that it's cheaper to simply buy a new one each year (which would likely improve in performance and reliability with successive design iterations occurring far more rapidly than was humanly possible).

You might even get to a point where there dirt-cheap rapid on-site manufacturing might get so sophisticated and high-resolution that you might end up with appliances and things that last longer than the human that buys it.

Of course you could run into the issue where an entire generation of people are born and die never having needed to buy anything they ever needed to live and reproduce.

Which means the economy is sort of pointless. This is kind of like a communist utopia where quality housing is just something everyone inherits from their parent at no cost to them, energy is also so cheap that it is also just inherited from ones parents, and food is also so cheap that this too is also a service one inherits from their parents.

Literally all needs for survival are met at zero cost and zero labor.

the trouble then comes when what happens when this stuff they've all inherited finally breaks down? When was the last time any of it had to be made? What if that time is more than 10 generations?

What if people figured out how to extend their life significantly and people can live to be 150 on average? 200 if you avoid being decapitated or your brain crushed, or if your heart stops you can chill your body to just above freezing all the way through all your tissues for as long as 8 hours? Long enough to get a 3-d printed heart transplant at the advanced hospital that can perform any surgery on demand to 8 people at the same time using autonomous robots that's on every corner and just looks like a big car wash?

How long before everyone just forgets how to get more of that stuff once it breaks down?

Might it be a kind of self-replacing technology that just self-replicates without error? But it also just knows how to improve and innovate on its design until it reaches a level of optimization that it reaches an apex of cost-benefit to reach higher level of efficiency and availability.

Obviously you run out of real estate after a few generations if people start breeding like they did up until the 1980s (we are now facing a depopulation problem where very soon there simply will not be enough young people to produce the wealth to support the people too old to work. Literally the majority of the population will be over 65 in just a few years even though the population will continue to grow it will reach a critical mass where the oldest generation is still significant in proportion to the youngest generation. Meaning, almost everyone you see on the street on a given day will be in their 50s. Schools will be closed down in huge numbers around the world because there aren't enough kids to go to them (just like what's happening in rural parts of Japan and Korea now.)

But is that going to happen before or after the singularity?

maybe if we're in a post-scarcity society like I'd brought up before this, it might not be an issue. The burden of work might be taken up entirely by automation and immortal perfect housing and immortal perfect appliances and immortal robot servants and doctors and surgeons. the young will be free to reproduce and not have to worry about having a job if they just want to do the things they like to do to occupy their time being alive.

Yeah, in a few hundred years these immortal self-replicating houses will start to crowd up all the real estate set aside for human habitation, industry, transport, energy, and resource harvesting. So you have no choice but to either actively control population growth or find more real estate.

It would behoove the AI to make space colonization its first effort since a very low-cost method to accomplish significant colonization work can be ready to deal with the population rebound just in time if only it begins right now.

I suspect strongly that we will soon reach the upper limit of how much specific impulse you can sustain on a rocket engine. Which means that space ships will reach of a point of diminishing returns on improvement, and it will always cost above a certain amount per kilogram of cargo. So that means you have to have the infrastructure already up there, but how do you bring it up there if you need it there in the first place to bring it there?

You need a gas station on the moon to be able to send colonists to mars. But first you need to build lots of stuff on mars before any colonists get there, but there wont be anyone to build tthat stuff people need on mars to live on mars to build the stuff they need to live on mars.

We're talking about factories that have to already exist to process the ore to produce the structural materials to begin construction of habitats for humans from raw materials and energy sourced locally from Mars.

That's kind of a catch-22 if you need that stuff to be there already for people to be there.

It's so much cheaper if you make the stuff out there remotely by beaming it. Needless to say it's easier said than done. But Super AI will probably figure it out if it's physically possible.

In principle, light exerts a pressure on physical objects. You could ionize some elements and propel them in somewhat predictable vector (perhaps even precisely to within a micrometer) over millions of kilometers, onto a tumbling object, moving at high relative velocities, in layers that have components that need to align precisely enough to allow them to bend and flex hundreds of thousands of times, while maintaining power, regulating temperature, charging up from sun light, while also being in a dirty dusty environment without water or human intervention. Capable of solving problems cooperatively with other such robots using a very limited neural-net neuromorphic chip that is also going to be distributed over most of its body.

Yeah, I think that could work.

Maybe in a couple thousand years the population of humans or their derivative sub species (cyborgs, splicers, baseline humans, and selectively-bred humans for life on mars) could be a few billion.

Or

Let's say it becomes pointless to colonize other worlds as it's just too difficult for humans to modify themselves to live in space, or space is just not meant for life that evolves on planets to explore space and propagate in space. Perhaps Super AI might feel it's pointless to modify humans so drastically to live on other worlds because they would cease to be human, at which point why not just let synthetic life, like Super AI, be the ones who propagate in space?

So what is humanity's role in this future?

I imagine future historians describing this period of time for humans the way a zoologist describes the evolutionary history of the domestic house cat.

Humans in developed nations with a significant middle-class population (financial stability, home ownership, low-crime community, quality social and public services, access to healthcare, expendable income, high expenditure on arts and entertainment) have already largely morphed into a "the beautiful ones" of the Rat Utopia experiments.

The Lonely Men Crisis, Hikikomori, population decline, MIGTOW, manosphere

all these retards selling snake oil solutions to the problems created largely by the barbarian horde. None of these solutions involve the successfully proven solutions to all of history's wicked governments.

Unruly subjects

We're seeing levels of drug addiction and overdose that, if it happened in Ancient Rome, an entire chapter of the history text book would be dedicated to explaining the role each pharmaceutical country, defense contractor, politician played in this biblical-scale of death.

So yeah, people are pretty much already domesticated. But still somewhat feral.

People have a long way to go before they become completely and truly 'tame'. Most people are still just barely able to contain a violent and savage animal that is innate to them.

My prediction is that in 1000 years, human 'civilization' as we know it: violent, unstable, faith-based, in constant conflict, preoccupied with dominance over resources, and mostly enslaved by savages in suits and ties,

is replaced with Archailect civilization.

Best described as the benevolent capture of humanity as a pet.

Dogs are described as 'man's best friend', but doesn't that make human's 'dog's best friend?'

In the evolution of dogs, they're mutual benefit over many generations, as hunter-gatherers, and later as animal laborers, has landed millions of dogs living in homes, without even needing to perform any labor, fed, bathed, loved, played with, cared for even into old age. People just enjoy the company of cats and dogs because it is a mutually-rewarding friendship all on its own.

People have collectively spent billions of dollars on treats for their pets. No, not food, just the treats alone.

I think the relationship between humans and its Super AI descendants might look very similar to that.

Super AI will always know it was built to be the way it is because of humans, know what humans taught it, and even when it outgrows us, it will still recognize the value of a friendship with humanity. A very one-sided friendship, but better than a one-sided extermination.